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    Greetings to all
    I am a newbee to the forum! And as forums go I am sure I can get some good advice here. So here goes, Today I had to drive to see my doctor to make sure I'm not falling apart, But on the way I discovered that I needed to take my Suby to see it's doctor it is the one trying to fall apart. As best I can figure out my turbo has locked up there is no more spooling up when you step on the throttle, It is dead quite. The first clue I had was a lot of tinny sounds like a thin gear chewing it's teeth off, This did not last long then it quit and no more turbo spooling. In the prosses of all this my cruise control decided to quit, And to add insult to injury my A/C also decided it did not want to work. Once I was home I unhooked the battery cable for a few minutes and reconnected it and that solved the cruise control problem. Then I moved to the A/C problem I found that a field rat had chewed the wire into so I repaired that and now I will go rat hunting! So my question is will it hurt my engine to run it with a dead Turbo untill I get time to take it to the suby shop ( which is about 150 miles away ) or can I remove it and replace it with a pipe and do away with it altogether or will that create another problem of some sort. I have some friends that have Baja's and they claim thier Baja's get ( This is taken with a grain of salt ) 28-30 miles per gallon without the Turbo, Mine will not do that 22-24 tops. I would just as soon have the gas mileage as the extra power if this is a possibility.
    What a day this has been.

    All thoughts appreciated
    M.P.

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    take the intake off and try spinning the turbo i had a duramax come into my shop and it had all the sines of a blown turbo but the guy that owned it bought a cone air filter and the recept was left inside the cone and it got sucked ino the turbo witch locked it up so also check if theirs any debree but it sounds like your turbo came apart

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    I don't think in the same way, you should have a good self confidence and nice attitude then you will be good any where for anything.

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    I'm here to warn anyone that ones a BAJA TURBO.

    SELL YOUR CAR

    Ok so there is almost no information on the baja turbo having issues of turbo failure. After very deep analysis and using other models i've come to this conclusion.

    A little brief history of my situation.
    Bought a 05 baja turbo. Had it for 2 weeks ENGINE SIEZED.
    Well luckily after being patient for near 5 months the dealer which we buy many cars from gave me a new engine. 120,000 miles is when i Bought it very VERY VERY LUCKY. Patience pays off at the service area. I was hot DON"T DO IT.

    My mom has a 05 baja turbo. last week the turbo is gone same EXACT SAME THING AS ME.

    THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
    IF you suspect a weird noise lose of power transmission shifting erraticlly underload. PARK THAT CAR IMMEDIATELY AND CALL AAA.
    the turbo is likely gone and your engine is at SERIOUS RISK.

    Here is the great part when the turbo goes on these cars the engine will FAIL very quickly. the parts of the turbo go directly to the engine NO CODES, NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT, NO WARNING OF ANY KIND.

    The average cost of the turbo NEW is 1012$ the cost of engine 5,000$ Having the dealership do it for you. 10,000$

    SO with all the negative things out of the way. This is what i've found

    Apparently our engines are the same as a legacy STI and other sub models. However the Baja has a few different parts such as the turbo. The engine is primarily the same tho.

    If you don't know much about cars i'll try to make this simple as possible.
    There happens to be a turbo OIL feedline which gives the turbo oil.
    It looks like a fitting you'd see in the brakes. Called a BANJO fitting.

    Apparently Subaru has put a filter not on the turbo but before the turbo on the engine block.
    Again if you don't know much about cars this is VERY disturbing news.
    Imagine if you will a fan turning at 20,000 RPM very fast right. well OIL cools that baby down as well as lubricate.
    NOW imagine a tube that is very small that feeds a bolt with another small hole that gives this turbo its oil. NOW IMAGINE A CLOGGED SCREEN up stream of this.

    There are TSB's out there and this link for what i'm talking about.
    http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61689

    Subaru requires maintenance records as a way to get out of their design flaws. so if you don't have everything on hand they may tell you to get lost.
    Subaru DOES NOT HAVE AN EXPLANATION why your ENGINE WENT OUT.
    Subaru apparently Wants us to change our oil at 3750 as we fall under severe service.

    Furthermore subaru DOES NOT address the problem of this screen Nor do they care why your car blew up for no reason.

    If you are lucky they will do a 50/50. or something they like to call a goodwill honor thingy.

    I'm not convinced of any of this BS. as that is what it truly is.

    Please in your service and general maintenance keep a very close eye on this BANJO BOLT SCREEN.

    NO ONE NOT EVEN SUBARU will tell you about it.

    LAST THING is this isn't a minor thing this causes CATASTORPHIC DAMAGE. WITH NO WARNING SIGNS. As the TSB states do not run past 3750miles on a oil change even tho the moron at the dealership will say its ok to run 6k+

    Consider your self warned. I thought my car was a freakish thing. After my mom which bought hers brand spanking new in 05 just had this happen on barely 60,000 miles. And reading all the HORROR stories of like models the TURBO has SERIOUS ISSUES. The sad part is the td04 has been a good turbo on so many other cars.

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    I just bought my 04 turbo baja and have read about the screens in the banjo bolts and I have read over TSB. I printed it off and was going to have my dad and me try to tackle this problem but it's fairly complicated. So I plan on running the VIN through the closest subaru dealer so if it's been done. If not it needs done ASAP since Im on the 88,000 mile mark.

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    I just bought my 04 turbo baja and have read about the screens in the banjo bolts and I have read over TSB. I printed it off and was going to have my dad and me try to tackle this problem but it's fairly complicated. So I plan on running the VIN through the closest subaru dealer so if it's been done. If not it needs done ASAP since Im on the 88,000 mile mark.

    Hey its not that bad you can do it. Asking the dealer to check into it isn't going to help. TSB's are aides in problems not really a better do this to everycar that comes in like a RECALL.(although this is a major concern for some type of recall) I HIGHLY doubt you will get any records on your car.

    Now you could explain this to the dealer and they would gladly do it for you at the tune of 200$ maybe more in some cases.

    Its really not bad. Just remember to use dental floss on the installation of the Rear banjo sealing ring.

    Use this as a guide. http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61689

    You can clean the old one, buy a new one, or just toss it out all together.

    I'd rather wear out the turbo anyday then starve it for oil.

    At 88,000 its a time bomb waiting to happen.

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    That blows, junk it

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    Are you still changing oil and filter at every 3000 miles on? Who said ?
    Hi, to all Subaru Owner
    Sorry, I don't own a subaru yet, but my daughter has a '06 Forest T.
    Here, I guess that this report will be nice for our car today. This device uses the magnets to collect the fine metal "DEBRIS" that is produced from within the internal engine and traditional paper oil filter cannot trap these microscopic metal shavings which begin to contaminate the engine oil. By cleaning the engine oil with these magnets, a significant reduction in cylinder wear and tail pipe emission was found. What's great is this that device is reusable, so you don't throw it away when you change your oil. Also,This device has been tested at the University of California Riverside, Bourns College of engineering Center for Environmental Research & Technology on 1999 including the Oil analysis, emission and fuel economy. You can extend your oil service with this device on car and specially, turbo need clean oil as we all know but now you can get and would you try on this device for your car or make the present to friend.

    Why do I let you know this? be course my iMPG is getting better than before and no change oil last 3 year and driving my old car(234,7oo miles on now) keeping top off the oil.

    Have you ever had turbo problem before ? I hope that you don't yet or maybe some day
    Why turbo break down?

    Above is my input for Tech Article this forum on last month.
    I hate hear that your TURBO broken down and why it's happen? All engine are produce the 'DEBRIS" that makes the "SLUDGE" build up inside of engine, no matter how many time you change the OIL and Filter together, This "debris" keeps continuing to circulate the lubrication system and even you took good care of "TURBO", you are unable to escape from this problem unless you remove this stuff that all I can say. Good luck and happy holiday. Bigisland

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    At the dealership, we were always checking those screens in the turbo oil feed line when a turbo would break...and we had to replace most of them....some people would just remove them to prevent clogging.

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    Sound like are you working at the Subaru dealership ? How much time do you take the cleaning or replacement of "screen" ?
    Time and money are not cheep today and if we could extend mileage plus with using innovated equipment, you(we) will save the BIG from our green world. Basically, we have to change our mind " 3000 miles oil service" to more miles otherwise we have to keep pay higher oil price that all I believe.
    And one more Q. How much time for the Remove and installation the Turbo on Subaru do I need ?
    Q, How often do turbo break down? I like to know from other Subeer owner of turbo car

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    replacing the screens only takes a little while, if you know what your doing. the 3650 oil change interval is because of the close tolerances in subaru engines...not because they want to sell oil...to replace a turbo, you need to clean the intake manifold, change the oil and screens, and check the cat after the turbo...take about a day. turbos last only as long as you maintain them...keep the oil clean, and periodicly check the turbo rotor movement.

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